Bit off a little bit too much (very sore today), would have started at the dirt road and done 4.5 miles had I known we could break it up. We saw more people on this hike than most hikes. Maybe a dozen over 3 hours so still not a lot. No water running in the creek. A bit of a hill coming back up but not really too much of one. Was a lot of fun and the trees are huge. Take the map they give you at the front as it breaks up the mileage. Now costs $4 each.